Mrs. Ford. No; I don't think so. He was just comparing, I believe with her uncle.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you how much money he was paid at his job?
Mrs. Ford. I don't remember, he was saying or Marina was saying something, 80 rubles, I don't know which one gave me that.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he indicate whether that was about the same that other people were paid or more?
Mrs. Ford. Yes; about the same as the workers were paid.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, is there anything else you can remember about that luncheon, the conversation at that luncheon which you would like to tell the Commission about other than what we have already touched on?
Mrs. Ford. Well, I don't know what was important. I know he was saying—my husband made a sort of a joking statement that he had a child born in Russia, and he said, well, if it wasn't for the Americans she wouldn't be born over there because he had to wait so long to get a visa, I don't know what else he said.
Mr. Liebeler. That was a visa for him to return?
Mrs. Ford. Yes; and the little girl, June, was born there because of that.
Mr. Liebeler. And Lee Oswald blamed the Americans for causing the delay?