Mr. Liebeler. Do you think, did you form an opinion as to whether this separation and the difficulties they were having was primarily the result of Oswald's behavior or did you think Marina might have been partially responsible for it, what did you think?
Mrs. Ford. My own opinion was that Marina was responsible for it. I think Marina was and I think now she is a rather immature girl.
The Chairman. She is what?
Mrs. Ford. I think she is rather immature in thinking.
The Chairman. Oh, yes.
Mrs. Ford. And a lot of times she agreed herself about provoking him in a way by arguing about his mother or things of some sort.
Mr. Liebeler. What did she tell you about arguments concerning his mother?
Mrs. Ford. Well, I don't know really. She would say something that he was badly brought up or something like that.
Representative Ford. He was what?
Mrs. Ford. Badly brought up, some sort of thing, and he would get mad and slam her for that or something and then he was telling her not to let mother in, and when mother comes to the apartment she would let her in and then they would argue over that.