Mr. Baker. There was an officer working traffic on that corner, and Officer J. W. Williams was——

Mr. Dulles. By that corner you mean the corner of Elm and Houston?

Mr. Baker. That is right, sir. J. W. Williams who is a motorcycle officer, was, I thought, over on the left-hand side of me, and he was right with me, but as I ran in this building, I found out that I was by myself. I didn't know where anybody went.

Senator Cooper. Did you later see J. W. Williams, Officer Williams?

Mr. Baker. Yes, sir. He stated that when the motorcade left with the President, and they immediately went code 3 to Parkland, why he was up there with him and he went up there with him. And I later saw him out there at Parkland.

Mr. Dulles. You testified, I believe, that you did not yourself see the President's car stop. You just were told it was stopped by several other officers?

Mr. Baker. Let me say, as I parked that motorcycle, I looked down there, well, the car had swerved to the left, and I saw this man run out into this crowd and back. I don't know who he was but I saw that and I saw these people following him, and all these pressmen jumping out of their cars and running down the street toward him.

Mr. Belin. Officer Baker, do you know from where this man ran off into the crowd at all or not?

Mr. Baker. Apparently he came from one of the cars right there by the President's car. He was, he came from the motorcade, inside the motorcade out to the sidewalk and then back.

Mr. Belin. All right.