Mr. Scoggins. No; I don't.

Mr. Dulles. You said he had it in his left hand?

Mr. Scoggins. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. Did you see where his right hand was?

Mr. Scoggins. He was kind of running, kind of like this, in this manner.

Mr. Belin. Did you hear the man say anything?

Mr. Scoggins. I heard him mutter something like, "poor damn cop," or "poor dumb cop." He said that over twice, and the last, I don't know whether the middle word was "damn" or "dumb," but anyway, he muttered that twice.

Mr. Belin. Did you hear him say any other word or phrase?

Mr. Scoggins. No.

Mr. Belin. Did you hear anyone else making any noise at about that time?