Mr. Belin. All right.

Representative Ford. Were you in your cab?

Mr. Scoggins. Yes.

Representative Ford. When you saw the pistol it wasn't in Officer Tippit's hands?

Mr. Scoggins. No, sir; oh, he never did have a pistol in his hand, as far as I know.

Mr. Belin. You saw him when he was falling?

Mr. Scoggins. Yes; he was holding his stomach.

Mr. Belin. You saw him holding his stomach as he fell?

Mr. Scoggins. Yes.

Mr. Belin. Did he have anything in his hands?