Mr. Scoggins. That I don't know because I did not look over there.

Mr. Dulles. Could Mr. Whaley, in your opinion, see you holding up these fingers?

Mr. Scoggins. No, no. I made sure of that because I had my hand down like this.

Mr. Belin. When you had your hand down you are putting it in front of your belt?

Mr. Scoggins. As well as I could remember I had it down kind of like this here. I don't know whether I used my right or my left hand, but I didn't hold up three fingers like this, but I held them down just about like this.

Mr. Belin. You are pointing to your right hand and putting it somewhat about a few inches above the buckle of your belt; is that about where you held up your fingers?

Mr. Scoggins. About as well as I could remember.

Mr. Belin. What happened after you held up your fingers, did someone see you holding your fingers up there?

Mr. Scoggins. Yes.

Representative Ford. Where were they standing beside you so that they could see your fingers?