Mr. Ball. And you say you identified a man. How did you do that?

Mr. Callaway. Well——

Mr. Ball. Tell us what happened.

Mr. Callaway. We first went into the room. There was Jim Leavelle, the detective, Sam Guinyard, and then this busdriver and myself. We waited down there for probably 20 or 30 minutes. And Jim told us, "When I show you these guys, be sure, take your time, see if you can make a positive identification."

Mr. Ball. Had you known him before?

Mr. Callaway. No. And he said, "We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer. We think he is the same one that shot the President. But if we can wrap him up tight on killing this officer, we have got him." So they brought four men in.

I stepped to the back of the room, so I could kind of see him from the same distance which I had seen him before. And when he came out, I knew him.

Mr. Ball. You mean he looked like the same man?

Mr. Callaway. Yes.

Mr. Ball. About what distance was he away from you—the closest that he ever was to you?