Mr. Specter. Will you describe briefly the physical layout utilized in taking Mr. Oswald from trauma room number two which you have already described up to the operating room?

Dr. Perry. We have an express elevator that connects delivery room, operating room, emergency room and it is approximately 20 yards from trauma room two, I would estimate, just around the corner, in an even corridor and although I was not there as they took him up, I was in the operating room preparing and scrubbing, he was wheeled directly there to the express elevator and taken to the second floor where the operating suites are.

Mr. Specter. Approximately how long does it take to get a patient from the trauma room up to the operating room?

Dr. Perry. It depends on a lot of factors. One is if the elevator is there or not or if it happens to be in surgery or in the delivery room. But I have on occasion where it was necessary that you must go with all dispatch to the operating room, have done it in a matter of a few minutes.

They brought him right in the door, placed him on the elevator with a finger controlling the hemorrhage where you could take him directly to the operating room. I have done that in a matter, I am sure, of less than 3 or 4 minutes if I had to.

Mr. Specter. Approximately how long did it take to get Oswald from trauma room two to the operating room?

Dr. Perry. I don't know, I was told subsequently it was 12 minutes from the time we had him up. And——

Representative Boggs. How long was it from the time he was shot until he reached the hospital?

Dr. Perry. I have no knowledge of that, sir.

Representative Boggs. Do you know?