Mrs. Paine. I don't recall thinking, that is, that anything like that marks it as being particular noticeable. So that I am judging that I recall seeing it in October, somewhere towards the end.

Mr. Jenner. Had anything occurred at that time that now leads you to fix it at the latter part of October?

Mrs. Paine. No; there is no way that I have to fix it.

Mr. Jenner. Did you stumble over it or something?

Mr. McCloy. Could it have been as early as October 4 or the 7th when you first got the call from him when he first returned to Dallas?

Mrs. Paine. Conceivably, but I don't remember.

Mr. Dulles. Then you saw it on another occasion, how many days later was that?

Mrs. Paine. I can't fix it that near.

Mr. Dulles. It was several days later, was it, the time when it seemed to have been moved from position "X" to position "XX"?

Mrs. Paine. Oh, yes; that was later.