Mr. Eisenberg. One photograph loaded, and one unloaded?
Mr. Frazier. Yes. In one instance I put six cartridges in the clip and photographed it.
Mr. Eisenberg. Did you take those photographs?
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCloy. Mr. Frazier, you testified that if you didn't use the clip you would only be able to shoot one shell at a time, is that right?
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; this weapon does not have the box magazine commonly found in most military weapons which holds the cartridges and can be reloaded one at a time, but they must remain in the clip, or they will malfunction. The follower in the weapon will throw the cartridges right back out of the gun.
Mr. McCloy. That explains it to my mind, because I know I have fired rifles with clips and fired them without clips. But they were much more convenient in loading.
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; this one is designed——
Mr. McCloy. For example, the Springfield you could load with clip or load without a clip.
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir.