Mr. Simmons. No. We have been concerned with almost all of the weapons which the Army has tested, either in preliminary stages or as developmental weapons.
Mr. Eisenberg. But your specialty is the evaluation of weapons systems, including military rifles, and you have been engaged in this for 13 years, as to all weapons systems, and since 1953 as to——
Mr. Simmons. Yes, that is correct.
Mr. McCloy. In the course of that you have examined hundreds of rifles, though, have you not?
Mr. Simmons. Well, our examination of rifles is not the detailed engineering, design experiment which a gunsmith or a rifle expert as such would concern himself with. We are more concerned with establishing a framework by which we can put numbers to the performance of military rifles in tactical employment. And this means that for a specific—specific classes of weapons, we have had to establish, for example, round-to-round dispersion, the accuracy with which they can be employed, and the wounding power of the projectiles.
Mr. McCloy. In the course of this you have fired a great many rifles yourself?
Mr. Simmons. No, sir; I don't fire them.
Mr. McCloy. Somebody else fires them?
Mr. Simmons. Yes.
Mr. McCloy. But you make the studies in relation to the accuracy of the weapons?