Mr. Cunningham. I don't know what he means by that.
Mr. Eisenberg. If he means what he says, that is, if he got a secure grip on the butt——
Mr. Cunningham. If he got a secure grip on the butt, that would take him away.
Mr. Eisenberg. Take him away from what?
Mr. Cunningham. That would take him away from the cylinder. If you are fighting over a weapon, the first thing is to get it off of you and then get hold of the cylinder. And then you can get both hands on the gun to jerk it away. That is what I would do.
As I say, it is the way we are taught. You want to get the gun off of you first, so you are not in direct line, and then go in and attempt to get it away from the person.
Mr. Eisenberg. Now, suppose the gun was pulled away from Oswald as Oswald had his grip on the trigger, so that he could not get the trigger through the complete cycle. Would there be a snapping noise made?
Mr. Cunningham. Definitely. If you locked the cylinder and jerked it away, you would get a snapping noise.
Mr. Eisenberg. Suppose you did not lock the cylinder, but for some reason or other the full trigger cycle was not gone through?
Mr. Cunningham. Then you would also get it. It would be difficult, but you could get it.