Senator Cooper. Both of them?
Mrs. Paine. Yes.
Senator Cooper. Or just one?
Mrs. Paine. Both.
Senator Cooper. Did you feel them to see if the rods were in there?
Mrs. Paine. No. I think Michael did, but I am not certain.
Senator Cooper. But you never did, yourself?
Mrs. Paine. It was not my most pressing——
Senator Cooper. What?
Mrs. Paine. It was not the most pressing thing I had to do at that time.