Mrs. Paine. There is a little more that is——
Senator Cooper. Why don't you just go ahead and tell it as you remember it, everything that he said and you said?
Mrs. Paine. I can't give the specific words to this part but I carry a clear impression, too, that he sounded to me almost as if nothing out of the ordinary had happened.
I would make this telephone call for him, would help him, as I had in other ways previously. He was, he expressed gratitude to me. I felt, but did not express, considerable irritation at his seeming to be so apart from the situation, so presuming of his own innocence, if you will, but I did say I would make the call for him.
Then he called back almost immediately. I gather that he had made the call to me on the permission to make a different call and then he got specific permission from the police to make a call to me and the call was identical.
Mr. Jenner. This is speculation?
Mrs. Paine. This is speculation but the content of the second call was almost identical.
Mr. Jenner. The phone rang?
Mrs. Paine. He asked me to contact John Abt.
Mr. Jenner. He identified himself and he asked you to make the call?