Mr. Jenner. You talked with him on that occasion. You saw him on one occasion when not so long after that he came out to pick up her things?
Mrs. Paine. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. And had some conversation with him then. Have there ever been any other occasions that you have had a conversation with him directly or by telephone?
Mrs. Paine. No. I made one attempt to have such a conversation and drove out to his home in Denton and talked with his wife.
Mr. Jenner. And what occurred then? When was that?
Mrs. Paine. Possibly in January.
Mr. Jenner. Of 1964?
Mrs. Paine. Right.
Mr. Jenner. Why did you go out there?
Mrs. Paine. I had been writing letters to Marina and receiving no reply, and I wanted to go and talk with both Robert and his wife to inquire what was the best way to be a friend to Marina in this situation, whether it was better to write letters or better not to, whether she wanted to hear from me or whether she didn't, and knowing that they had seen her, I felt they might be able to help me with this.