Mrs. Paine. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Did you discuss Marina when you were with your sister?

Mrs. Paine. Very probably.

Mr. Jenner. And in substance did you say to your sister that you intended to go to New Orleans in the course of your trip within about 2 weeks to pick up Marina who was pregnant, she was the wife of an American, and she was to live with you in your home in Texas?

Did you say that much to her?

Mrs. Paine. Well, I probably said it depended on whether she wanted to go.

Mr. Jenner. Other than that have I stated the substance in that connection?

Mrs. Paine. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Did you also say to her that Marina wanted to leave her husband who was not supporting her, and was a jerk as far as his husband's role was concerned?

Mrs. Paine. No.