Mrs. Paine. I would say that my sister's reaction to what I said was more forceful than what I said.
Mr. Jenner. But you did express a negative opinion.
Mrs. Paine. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. You testified that—are you acquainted with a Dr. Carl Hyde?
Mrs. Paine. He is my brother.
Mr. Jenner. Did you discuss Marina and Lee with him when you visited there in September of 1963?
Mrs. Paine. I recall particularly an evening discussion with his wife where I told quite a lot about the contact that I had had with Marina.
Mr. Jenner. Did you state to either or both of them that Marina's husband was a Communist?
Mrs. Paine. That is possible. I think it is more likely that I referred to him as a Marxist.
Mr. Jenner. Now, what is the distinction between a Marxist and a Communist in your mind?