Mrs. Paine. No.

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever discuss with Lee why he was—he always took care to distinguish to say that he was a Marxist as distinguished from a Communist?

Mrs. Paine. No; I never did.

Mr. Jenner. Did you form an impression as to what he intended to convey by that description?

Mrs. Paine. He intended to convey that he was more pure, I felt, that was my impression.

Mr. Jenner. More pure than what?

Mrs. Paine. Than a Communist.

Mr. Jenner. Did you also say to your brother or your sister or both of them that Lee had not permitted her to learn English, that is Marina?

Mrs. Paine. Very probably.

Mr. Jenner. And that Marina was experiencing marital difficulties with Lee?