Mr. Belin. You went west on Main from Record Street to——
Mr. Brennan. Houston.
Mr. Belin. Houston
Mr. Brennan. And on the east side of Houston, I walked to Elm.
Mr. Belin. All right.
Mr. Brennan. Crossed the street to the southwest corner of Houston and Elm.
Mr. Belin. Do you have any estimate about how long it took you to get there?
Mr. Brennan. A possibility I would say more or less 4 minutes.
Mr. Belin. And then what did you do when you got to the southwest corner of Houston and Elm?
Mr. Brennan. I stayed around a couple of minutes. There was a man having an epileptic fit, a possibility of 20 yards east—south of this corner. And they were being attended by some civilians and officers, and I believe an ambulance picked him up.