Mr. Brennan. Oh, yes, much better. Oh, I could put these glasses on and it is just like looking through a window pane. The upper part is just regular clear.
Mr. Dulles. Do you have some questions, Mr. McCloy?
Mr. McCloy. Yes; I have some questions.
You said you went across the street after having sort of jumped off this retaining wall in order to protect yourself against the possible fusilade of shots.
Mr. Brennan. Right.
Mr. McCloy. Then you went across and picked up a police officer, is that right?
Mr. Brennan. Right, sir.
Mr. McCloy. And then you went with him to the steps of the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. Brennan. Eventually, yes.
Mr. McCloy. How long did it take you, do you think, from the time of the—when you first got up—from the time of the last shot, how long would you estimate it would be before you got to the steps of the Texas Book Depository?