Mr. Williams. I didn't tell them I was using the stairs. I came back down to the fifth floor in the same elevator I came up to the sixth floor on.

Mr. Ball. You did?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Now, also, on January 14th, did you remember talking to a couple of agents named Carter and Griffin?

Mr. Williams. I can't remember their names, but I am sure I did.

Mr. Ball. You talked to a good many of them?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Well, they reported here that you went down to the fifth floor, and you did so by going down on the west elevator.

Mr. Williams. The east elevator. The reason I was able to determine whether it was the east elevator is because I think when you questioned us the other day, the other fellows—I told you I didn't remember which elevator first. But the other fellows said they had the west elevator. There are only two elevators. If they are sure they had the west elevator up, that only leaves the east elevator.

Mr. Ball. When you got to the fifth floor and left the elevator, at that time were both elevators on the fifth floor?