Mr. Ball. Which elevator?
Mr. Williams. I believe it was the east elevator.
Mr. Ball. Did you see anybody with him?
Mr. Williams. I did not.
Mr. Ball. You were only able to see the top of his helmet?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. You could only see the top of his helmet?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir; that is the only thing I saw about it.
Mr. Ball. They reported that you told them on the 23d of November that you and Hank, that is Hank Norman, isn't it——
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.