Mr. Williams. I couldn't give you the exact time, but it wasn't long.
Mr. Ball. You can't give me any estimate in minutes?
Mr. Williams. No, sir; I would not want to say.
Mr. Dulles. Did you see Lee Oswald at any time during this period?
Mr. Williams. No, sir; I don't remember seeing him.
Mr. Ball. Were the police with you?
Mr. Williams. Yes; they were.
Mr. Ball. Were your two friends with you, Jarman and——
Mr. Williams. No; they wasn't with me. First I think they took me and another fellow, Danny—they took us in one car. Then they took some other fellows in another car, and then another car, I think.
Mr. Ball. You were with Danny Arce and one or two police officers?