Mr. Williams. No, sir.
Mr. McCloy. Were you physically kept from leaving the building when you got downstairs? Did you try to go out of the building?
Mr. Williams. No, sir; I wasn't trying to go out of the building because there wasn't any use of trying to, because at the time we arrived on the first floor, I heard an officer shout out and say, "No one leave the building."
Mr. McCloy. Have you got any appreciation of the time that elapsed between your hearing the first shot and the time that you got finally down to the first floor, after you had been on the fifth floor and the fourth floor?
Mr. Williams. No, sir; I could not give you any time.
Mr. McCloy. Well, you did not give us any time. Do you have any recollection now of about how long that was? Was it 15 minutes, 10 minutes, 20 minutes? How long did it take from the time that you were looking out that window and you heard that shot until you did get down to the first floor?
Mr. Williams. Well, I could say approximately 15 minutes, maybe a little before then, maybe after. I could not say exactly.
Mr. Dulles. Do you know what time it was when you went off and left for the police station?
Mr. Williams. I could not give you the exact time.
Mr. McCloy. Do you know whether or not anybody got out of the building before the police could get there? Did any of your friends or the people you were working with, did you hear whether any of them had left the building before the building was closed?