Mr. Belin. Were they with some policeman as they came out of the building or in custody of some plainclothesman?

Mr. Brennan. I don't believe they were.

Mr. Belin. You saw them together come out of the building?

Mr. Brennan. I don't believe they were. I don't recall seeing any officer bring them out or with them.

Mr. Belin. Now you do not believe then that it was Mr. Williams?

Mr. Brennan. No; I won't say for sure. I can't tell which of those two it was.

Mr. Belin. In other words, you say that you can't, when you say you can't tell whether it was Mr. Williams or Mr. Norman, did you just see one person or two?

Mr. Brennan. I saw two but I can't identify which one it was.

Mr. Belin. Could it have been neither one of these persons that you saw?

Mr. Brennan. I think it was one of them. I think it was this boy on the end.