Mr. Ball. Somebody gives you orders by way of papers?

Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. What do you do after you get an order on a paper?

Mr. Norman. We had a different publisher in the building, and each individual, he had a publisher that he would take, maybe I would take to a publisher and the other orders would and we would fill orders and bring them down to the first floor for them to be checked and shipped out.

Mr. Ball. You have to go up and get the books out of cartons, do you?

Mr. Norman. Yes. If we didn't have enough down in the bins down on the first floor we would have to go upstairs, to complete the orders.

Mr. Ball. Do you fill some of your orders from the first floor?

Mr. Norman. Yes.

Mr. Ball. How many floors did you go to that morning yourself, November 22? Can you remember that?

Mr. Norman. I believe I went as far as the fifth floor that morning.