Mr. Ball. And what did you and Junior do after you got off the elevator?

Mr. Norman. We walked around to the windows facing Elm Street and I can't recall if any were open or not but I remember we opened some, two or three windows ourselves.

Mr. Ball. Did somebody join you there?

Mr. Norman. Bonnie Ray, I can't remember if he was there when we got there or he came later. I know he was with us a period of time later.

Mr. Ball. And then did he come down before the President's motorcade came by?

Mr. Norman. Yes; he was with us before the motorcade came by.

Mr. Ball. Did you move around any from one window to another before the motorcade?

Mr. Norman. Well, if I did I didn't move no further than those three windows that were open in the front there. I didn't move any further than that.

Mr. Ball. I show you some pictures here. This is Commission Exhibit No. 482. Do you recognize anybody in that window?

Mr. Norman. That is myself and that is Bonnie Ray Williams.