Mr. Ball. And how long did you stay at that window?
Mr. Norman. I don't remember, but it wasn't very long.
Mr. Ball. Then where did you go?
Mr. Norman. We ran down to the first floor.
Mr. Ball. As you were at the fifth floor, looking west as shown in Exhibit No. 489, were you able to see the stairwell?
Mr. Norman. No.
Mr. Ball. Why?
Mr. Norman. Because there is a row of bins there that prevents you standing in a position that I was in to keep you from seeing it.
Mr. Ball. There is 492. Does that show the row of bins?
Mr. Norman. Yes; the row of bins.