(Discussion off the record.)
The Chairman. Did you see Brennan down there when you came downstairs? Did you come out the front door?
Mr. Norman. Yes, sir; I came out the front door and I remember seeing Mr. Brennan.
Mr. Belin. About how long after the shooting was that?
Mr. Norman. It wasn't very long because—I can't remember the time but it wasn't too long a period of time, and I remember seeing him because he had on a steel helmet, a little steel helmet.
Representative Ford. Was he standing with another man and they called you over?
Mr. Norman. I don't know if he was exactly standing with another man, but it was several people standing around there, and I remember him talking and I believe I remember him saying that he saw us when we first went up to the fifth floor window, he saw us then. I believe I heard him say that, but otherwise I don't know if he was standing by. There was quite a few people standing around there.
Representative Ford. You were stopped and Mr. Brennan made these comments?
Mr. Norman. Yes, sir; I remember.
Representative Ford. On the front entrance steps?