Mr. Ball. Oh, approximately. Nine, ten?

Mr. Jarman. It was around, it was between eight and nine, I would say.

Mr. Ball. Between 8 and 9?

Mr. Jarman. Between 5 minutes after 8 and 9.

Mr. Ball. You had him correct an order?

Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Did you talk to him again that morning?

Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir. I talked to him again later on that morning.

Mr. Ball. About what time?

Mr. Jarman. It was between 9:30 and 10 o'clock, I believe.