Mr. Jarman. Like some come off a brick or plaster or something.
Mr. Ball. Did Norman say anything else that you remember?
Mr. Jarman. He said that he was sure that the shot came from inside the building because he had been used to guns and all that, and he said it didn't sound like it was too far off anyway. And so we ran down to the west side of the building.
Mr. Ball. Did Norman say anything about hearing cartridges or ejection or anything like that, do you remember?
Mr. Jarman. That was after we got down to the west side of the building.
Mr. Ball. After you got down where?
Mr. Jarman. To the west side of the building.
Mr. Ball. Down the west side?
Mr. Jarman. Right.
Mr. Ball. Now you ran down to the west side of the building, did you?