Mr. Jarman. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. Or any steps upstairs?

Mr. Jarman. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. Any noise at all up there?

Mr. Jarman. None.

Mr. Ball. I have here a diagram which is 487. This is the southeast corner of the building on this diagram. Do you recognize that?

Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. This is the Elm Street side?

Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Will you point out the window to which you three boys ran when you looked out, you opened the window and looked out towards the——