Mr. Jarman. Down. We ran to the elevator first, but the elevator had gone down.

Mr. Ball. Where did you go?

Mr. Jarman. Then we ran to the stairway and ran downstairs, and we paused a few minutes on four.

Mr. Ball. Which elevator did you run to?

Mr. Jarman. To the elevator on the west side.

Mr. Ball. On the west. That wasn't there?

Mr. Jarman. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. When you went downstairs, what did you see on the first floor?

Mr. Jarman. When we got downstairs on the first floor, I think the first one I seen was Eddie Piper.

Mr. Ball. Eddie Piper works there, does he?