Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Did you stay out there very long?
Mr. Jarman. Just a few minutes.
Mr. Ball. Then where did you go?
Mr. Jarman. We heard him talking to this officer about that he had heard these shots and he had seen the barrel of the gun sticking out the window, and he said that the shots came from inside the building, and I told the officer that I believed that they came from inside the building also, and then he rushed us back inside.
Mr. Ball. The officer did?
Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. How did you know this fellow was Brennan?
Mr. Jarman. Well, at that time I didn't know him at all.
Mr. Ball. Have you learned that since?