Mr. Jarman. William Shelley was standing up talking to Mrs. Lee.
Representative Ford. To Mrs. Lee?
Mr. Jarman. Miss Lee, or Mrs. Lee, I think, and he was discussing to her about the President coming, asked her was she going to stand out there and see him pass.
Representative Ford. About what time Friday morning was this?
Mr. Jarman. I imagine it would be about—I think it was between 8:30 and 9:00. I am not sure.
Representative Ford. You hadn't read about it in the papers the night before or that morning?
Mr. Jarman. No, sir.
Representative Ford. When did you have this conversation with Lee Oswald, where he asked you—you told him that the motorcade was coming by the School Book Depository Building?
Mr. Jarman. It was some time that morning, between 9:30 and 10:30.
Representative Ford. This was after you heard Mr. Shelley and Miss or Mrs. Lee talk?