Mr. Truly. Yes.

Mr. Belin. And you say that you are either at the spot marked by the letter "T" or perhaps a little bit to the east of that?

Mr. Truly. That is right.

Mr. Belin. And that you gradually might have moved a little bit towards the south, towards the parkway, is that correct?

Mr. Truly. That is correct.

Mr. Belin. All right.

Do you know approximately what time you got there, Mr. Truly? To the best of your recollection.

Mr. Truly. 3 or 4 minutes after we reached the entrance, the walkway, we stood on the steps 2 or 3 minutes, and then I don't believe—we just gradually moved out a bit.

And then when the policemen leading the motorcade came off of Main on to Houston, we saw them coming, and then we just moved out a little farther to the edge of the parkway.

Mr. Belin. Did you notice any other company employees with you other than Mr. Campbell at that time?