Mr. Belin. Now, after you got—when did you notice that west elevator next? If you know.

Mr. Truly. I don't know.

Mr. Belin. I believe you said when you first saw the elevators, you thought they were both on the same floor, the fifth floor.

Mr. Truly. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. Then how do you explain that when you got to the fifth floor, one of the elevators was not there?

Mr. Truly. I don't know, sir. I think one of my boys was getting stock off the fifth floor on the back side, and probably moved the elevator at the time—somewheres between the time we were running upstairs. And I would not have remembered that. I mean I wouldn't have really heard that, with the commotion we were making running up the enclosed stairwell.

Mr. Belin. Did you see anyone on the fifth floor?

Mr. Truly. Yes. When coming down I am sure I saw Jack Dougherty getting some books off the fifth floor.

Now, this is so dim in my mind that I could be making a mistake.

But I believe that he was getting some stock, that he had already gone back to work, and that he was getting some stock off the fifth floor.