The Chairman. The fifth floor?

Mr. Belin. The fifth floor; yes, sir.

Mr. Truly. Yes; I was, I believe. Some of them I may not have been when all of them were taken. I was not there when this picture was taken, no, sir.

Mr. Belin. You are familiar with those bins on the fifth floor, are you not?

Mr. Truly. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. How long have those bins by the stairway been there?

Mr. Truly. Well, it would be hard for me to say, but they have been there, I suppose, almost from the time we moved in—nearly 2 years. They were there at the time of November 22.

Mr. Belin. On Commission Exhibit 487, the line marked "W", will you state whether or not this appears to be the approximate line where the bins are located?

Mr. Truly. Yes, it would be.

Mr. Belin. Can you see over those bins?