Representative Ford. And 36 is the position of the clipboard?
Mr. Ball. I don't think you can take that as evidence.
Mr. Belin. This is not evidence. This is just background.
Mr. Ball. This is really an offer of proof on our part. That is the most you can consider it—because we intend to take the deposition of Kaiser who found the clipboard.
Representative Ford. Is there someone here, the staff or Mr. Truly, who knows approximately when the clipboard was found?
Mr. Belin. Yes, sir. I can give you that date in about one minute. According to our records, Frankie Kaiser, when interviewed on December 2d, said that on the morning of December 2d he found a clipboard which he had made and which he had turned over to Lee Harvey Oswald with orders. And we have a list of the orders also in one of the Commission documents. It is Document 7, page 381.
But we are going to have to actually take the deposition of Mr. Kaiser, which we will do when we go to Dallas next week or the week after, or whenever we get to him.
Representative Ford. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Representative Ford. Back on the record.