Mr. Truly. Yes, sir; I think so. There were many officers running down west of the building. It appears many people thought the shots came from there because of the echo or what.

Mr. Dulles. Is it your view he went out the front door rather than one of the back doors?

Mr. Truly. Yes, sir; it is. From the nature—from the direction he was walking through the office, and the front stairway, to reach the second floor—it is my view that he walked down the front stairs and just out through the crowd there, probably a minute or two before the police had everything stopped.

Mr. McCloy. From what you know of these young men who testified before you today, are they trustworthy?

Mr. Truly. Yes, sir; I think they are. They are good men. They have been with me, most of them, for some time. I have no reason to doubt their word. I do know that they have been rather, as the expression goes, shook up about this thing, especially this tall one, Bonnie Williams. He is pretty superstitious, I would say. For 2 or 3 weeks the work was not normal, or a month. The boys did not put out their normal amount of work. Their hearts were not in it. But after that, they have picked up very well. They are doing their work well.

Mr. Belin. If we can go off the record for just a moment.

(Discussion off the record.)

The Chairman. Back on the record.

Mr. Truly. I thank you very much.

The Chairman. Thank you, sir. You have helped us a good deal.