Mr. Belin. All right.

I wonder if you would pick up your actions with the motorcade as it went down Main Street commencing at, say, Main and Record Streets.

Mr. Baker. Well, it was the usual escort. We were traveling about somewhere around 5 to 10 miles an hour.

Mr. Dulles. There is a map right behind you.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Belin. Back on the record again.

Mr. Dulles. Would you state exactly where you were riding? We know a good deal about this, the cars the way they were paced. There was a car right behind the President's car that followed it, I think 6 or 7 feet right behind the President's car.

Mr. Baker. That was the Secret Service car.

Mr. Dulles. That is right. Were you in that gap between the two cars or what?

Mr. Baker. No, sir; I was, it seemed to me like, there was this car.