Mr. Baker. Yes, sir. As I was looking up, all these pigeons began to fly up to the top of the buildings here and I saw those come up and start flying around.

Mr. Belin. From what building, if you know, do you think those pigeons came from?

Mr. Baker. I wasn't sure, but I am pretty sure they came from the building right on the northwest corner.

Mr. Belin. Then what did you see or do?

Mr. Baker. Well, I immediately revved that motorcycle up and was going up there to see if I could help anybody or see what was going on because I couldn't see around this bend.

Mr. Belin. Well, between the time you revved up the motorcycle had you heard any more shots?

Mr. Baker. Yes, sir; I heard—now before I revved up this motorcycle, I heard the, you know, the two extra shots, the three shots.

Mr. Belin. Do you have any time estimate as to the spacing of any of these shots?

Mr. Baker. It seemed to me like they just went bang, bang, bang; they were pretty well even to me.

Mr. Belin. They were pretty well even.