Mr. Dulles. I don't think you have it on the chart where he was.

Mr. Belin. This is when he first saw him after he got in the room, sir. If I can go off the record.

Mr. Dulles. What I wanted to get is where he first saw him as he was standing down here, as he was going up the stairs and stopped and then in what direction he was—he seemed to be moving at that time before he saw.

Mr. Belin. Just answer the question, if you will. Where were you when you first caught a glimpse of this man?

Mr. Baker. I was just coming up these stairs just around this corner right here.

Mr. Belin. All right. You were coming up the stairs at the point on Exhibit 497 where there are the letters "DN" marking down.

Mr. Baker. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. And you saw something move through a door which is marked as what number on Exhibit 497?

Mr. Dulles. Where was he when you first saw him?

Mr. Baker. At this doorway right here, this 23.