Mr. Belin. What did you see when you looked up the elevator shaft?
Mr. Baker. At that time I thought there was just one elevator there, you know, one big freight elevator, and to me they looked like they were up there, I didn't know how many floors in that building but you could see them up there, it looked like just at that time, I thought it was just one, when I looked up there, and it looked to me anywhere from three to four floors up.
Mr. Belin. Was either elevator moving at the time or—pardon me, was there any elevator moving at the time you saw and looked up the shaft?
Mr. Baker. No, sir.
Mr. Belin. Did you hear any elevator moving?
Mr. Baker. No, sir.
Mr. Belin. Mr. Truly pushed the button, I believe you said.
Mr. Baker. That is right, sir.
Mr. Belin. When he pushed the button did any elevator start moving?
Mr. Baker. No, sir.