Mr. Belin. You are saying as you are looking over the south and over the west?
Mr. Baker. Yes, sir.
Mr. Belin. All right.
Mr. Baker. Then after I looked to see what was going on down there, and then I figured out that he wouldn't have shot from that ledge he would have shot from this sign or this old room, building back here on the back side.
Mr. Belin. All right. Now, you are pointing to Exhibit 362 to the sign on the top of the School Book Depository Building, the Hertz sign, and some kind of a structure on the northeast corner of the building, is that correct?
Mr. Baker. That is correct.
Mr. Belin. Officer Baker, when you talk, I wonder if you would look at me, we might be able to hear a little bit better. Would you tell us what else you did?
Mr. Baker. As I finished going all around this building here and then I came to this sign and I looked up there to see if I could find anybody hiding up there and I started up these steps, it is a ladder there on that sign, and I got on, say, 10 feet up there and I came back down, I seen that nobody would shoot from up there. He wouldn't have no place to hold on.
Mr. Belin. By that you are referring to climbing the ladder to climb up the sign, is that correct?
Mr. Baker. Yes, sir; this large Hertz sign here.