Mr. Baker. Yes, sir. And he was on, I really didn't notice which floor he was on, but that is the first thing I saw as we descended how this freight elevator, you know, it has got these picket boards in front of it and it has got it open so far, and it seemed to me like we stopped for a moment and I spoke to him and I told him that I had been to the roof, and there wasn't anything on the roof that would indicate anybody being up there, and then we started on down.

Mr. Belin. Did you stay on the elevator while you spoke to him?

Mr. Baker. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. Do you remember what floor it was that you spoke to him on or how many floors down that you went from the top before you saw him?

Mr. Baker. No, sir; not at that time. It seemed to me like it was on either the third or the fourth floor.

Mr. Belin. Do you remember about how long you stayed on the roof?

Mr. Baker. It was a little over 5 minutes.

Mr. Belin. When you continued moving on the elevator after you talked to Inspector Sawyer how far did you go on the elevator?

Mr. Baker. We went to the, I believe it would be the first floor there.

Mr. Belin. All right. You got off the elevator then?