Mr. Lawson. Again I don't know. I conceive myself personally—where we go through quite often—I believe there are more people in the State of New York than there are in Billings, Mont., and you might have more of a chance of something occurring in New York. But again I don't know why it is in New York and not usual in other places.
Mr. Stern. Was the organization of the motorcade in Dallas typical, apart from New York?
Mr. Lawson. Yes. Quite typical.
Mr. Stern. Would it be the same in Billings, Mont., or would you have additional strength in the motorcade in Dallas?
Mr. Lawson. As far as escorting people, there were more people in Dallas.
Mr. Stern. More celebrities?
Mr. Lawson. No; by escorting people I meant motorcycles or something like that. Again it depends on where you are, even if they have motorcycles or how many they have. But the makeup of the motorcade vehicles itself, again depending on who is coming and how many cars you have is pretty generally the same. A pilot car, a lead car, the President's car, motorcycles if you have them, some motorcycles if you have them along the side of the motorcade to help keep it intact or if it gets split up as it has on occasion to be able to catch them up and rear vehicles to keep them from passing the motorcade, et cetera.
Mr. Stern. And the one Presidential followup car.
Mr. Lawson. And the Secret Service followup car; yes, sir. This was my first movement with the President and the Vice President all at the same time. That was quite out of the ordinary.
Mr. Stern. And there you added a Vice-Presidential followup car?