Mr. Eisenberg. The Exhibit Paine No. 2 is tied into a knot at this point. Can you tell us what kind of a knot that is?

Mr. Stombaugh. This was a simple bow knot which I put into it.

Mr. Eisenberg. You put it into it?

Mr. Stombaugh. Yes, sir.

Mr. Eisenberg. So the knot does not reproduce the knots as you found them originally?

Mr. Stombaugh. No; they do not.

Mr. Eisenberg. Mr. Stombaugh, I wonder if you could tie the demonstration piece of string you have been using into the granny knot and bow knot, in the manner in which you received it.

Mr. Stombaugh. There is the granny knot and here is the bow knot.

Mr. Eisenberg. You are not here trying to approximate the diameter or the circumference of the string, but only the knots?

Mr. Stombaugh. No.