Mr. Eisenberg. Could you tell whether they were old or new?

Mr. Stombaugh. They all appeared old.

Mr. Eisenberg. What about——

Mr. Dulles. What do you mean by old, 2 or 3 months old, 2 or 3 weeks old?

Mr. Stombaugh. Well, a length of time, I would say that in excess of a month or 2 months.

Mr. Dulles. In that area?

Mr. Stombaugh. In that area or longer. They weren't recently put in there. Let's say that.

Mr. Eisenberg. What about the grease, did you attempt to examine the grease?

Mr. Stombaugh. No.

Mr. Eisenberg. Why was that?