Mr. Dulles. Mr. Murray, do you have any questions?

Mr. Murray. I don't believe I have, Mr. Commissioner, but I would like to mention this off the record, if I may.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Eisenberg. We have now the ultraviolet machine set up.

Could you just show us the difference in fluorescence?

Mr. Cadigan. Yes.

Mr. Eisenberg. Can you explain what you have set up here, Mr. Cadigan?

Mr. Cadigan. This is a portable ultraviolet viewer I used to examine the papers and I think probably what is most noticeable is in the manila tapes. The tape on the right is the sample secured November 22. The tape at the top is from the bag 142, and then the one in the, you might say, lower left, toward the bottom, is the tape that was secured December 1.

Mr. Eisenberg. You are referring to positions in the bottom of the ultraviolet machine?

Mr. Cadigan. Yes; relative position.